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Covestro AG (CVVTF) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Oct. 29, 2024 3:00 PM ETCovestro AG (CVVTF) Stock, COVTY Stock

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Covestro AG (OTCPK:CVVTF) Q3 2024 Results Conference Call October 29, 2024 9:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Ronald Koehler – Head of Investor Relations
Christian Baier – CFO & Member of Management Board
Carsten Intveen – Investor Relations Director

Conference Call Participants

Christian Faitz – Kepler Cheuvreux
Geoff Haire – UBS
Chetan Udeshi – JPMorgan

Christian Baier

Thank you, Ronald, and hello, and a warm welcome to our third quarter call. Before coming to the business of the last quarter, let me update you on the status of the announced transaction with ADNOC. The signing of the investment agreement on 1st of October marked the beginning of a multistep takeover process, which we believe is in the best interest of our shareholders, the company and all stakeholders.

Last Friday, ADNOC published the offer document. The publication of the offer document marked the start of the initial acceptance period, which will last until November 27, 2024. A potential additional acceptance period might last from December 3 until December 16, 2024. The Board of Management, together with the Supervisory Board, will issue their recent statement in due course.

But now let us focus on the highlights of the third quarter. We delivered a continued strong volume growth of 6.1% year-on-year. However, lower prices are still affecting sales, which came in at €3.6 billion. In line with our guidance, we achieved an EBITDA of €287 million. Free operating cash flow turned positive with €112 million and was in line with our expectations. As usual, with the Q3 call, we are narrowing our EBITDA guidance range.

Turning back to the business and the volume development in the third quarter of 2024. Year-on-year, the global sales volume continued to increase by 6.1%. This is driven by an improving demand but also constantly delivering on our reliability ambition after the issues in Europe in 2022 and 2023. The volume growth rate has slowed slightly compared to H1 2024 due to a baseline effect as we were able to ramp up production already during H2 2023.

Going through different industries. Construction showed the highest growth rate, with a low teens percent increase and Furniture with a mid-single-digit percent volume increase. Electro developed flattish and Auto exhibited a low single-digit volume reduction.

Let’s now look into the different regions. In EMLA, Construction and Furniture are showing continued strong growth based on improved availability of MDI and TDI since the resolved internal availability issues. However, Auto is on a slight decline and Electro on a significant decline. And almost comparable industry picture can be observed in North America. Construction developed positively with a significant increase. Furniture is flat, but like in EMLA, Electro and Auto are showing a slight decline. APAC again, continues with stable to positive growth across all industries, important to Covestro. Construction exhibited significant growth, Furniture and Electro slight growth and Auto was flattish.

Chetan Udeshi

Okay. This is always very complicated, I have to say. Maybe you should probably think about a better way of doing it. Can I ask one thing? I saw Dow mentioned last week that they are doing a strategic review of their polyurethanes assets. And I was just curious from Covestro’s perspective, is that something that Covestro can look at? Is it even practically possible from antitrust point of view? I’m just trying to explore what possibilities we might have for a possible consolidation, if any, in the European polyurethanes market, especially after what Dow said.

The second question, I was just curious and maybe this is just following up on the previous question. You said based on historical cycles, et cetera, you think next year could also be weak for Construction and Auto. And I’m just curious if you can point me to what exactly — or which historical cycles are you referring to?

Christian Baier

Chetan, I’m very happy to comment on maybe just on the last one with respect to Construction and Auto, we said that we have seen on the side of Furniture and Electro which have now stabilized. We have seen slightly longer periods of weakness from that overall perspective. And while this is not an academic read across into Construction and Auto, and there is a little bit of a perspective that this could be somewhat ongoing. That’s what we are properly preparing for, there is no better crystal ball that we have on those.

And certainly, when we look into Construction, especially from a seasonal perspective, we’d rather see that developing from Q2 next year onwards rather than from the beginning of the year. But that’s as far as it goes with respect to our expectations on that.

With respect to the topic of Dow, they have put their European pure assets into a strategic review. We are talking here about 3 MDI assets that they have spread across Europe. We are talking about polyol assets on that perspective. Let’s see what the outcome will be of the review that they are going forward. We certainly, in any of the movements in the overall industry would be open-minded on the various pieces that would be developing and watching that situation closely.

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